For those who have attacked Hillary Clinton so viciously for her vote on the Iraq War, AS THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK, one of the states actually attacked by Al Queda a little over one year before the vote was cast, I hope you read her speech.
IF you fell for the Mainstrean Media FOR PROFIT’s caricature of her as a neocon warmonger, just so they could increase ratings if there were a major fight during the Democratic Primaries, you should read the speech she gave with the vote. I guarantee you the MSM sorely misrepresented her vote and they did so for ratings in the 2008 Democratic Primaries.
Yes, Barack Obama did say he was against the war but said did not know how he would have voted IF he had been in the Senate at the time and had to actually cast a vote! But, of course, the MSM played that comment down because they wanted a Democratic Primary fight for their PROFIT!
I do not think the MSM could forsee that the DNC that had established rules as to the exact punishment for a state holding its primary ahead of time would actually CHANGE the rules for MI & FL just enough to give the nomination to Obama!
Hillary Clinton could have taken the fight to the Convention; she certainly had the legal ground to stand on and she did reserve that right. But, many Super Delegates were being threatened with violence and one black Governor on the Chris Matthews show said there would be violent protests at the Convention if the nomination were “given” to Clinton! Matthews didn’t call him on it; just went on as if a Governor of a state had not just made a violent threat on his program!
Later, to avoid such an ugly scene at the Convention which might cost Democrats the presidency, Hillary Clinton eloquently conceded. I do not think the MSM ever thought Obama would be the Democratic nominee. And IF McCain had not made such an absolute ass of himself regarding the potential recession, I do think the election would have been much more close.
The MSMs behavior toward Sara Palin (I abhor her political views) was nothing short of atrocious! Never have I seen a VP candidate’s family attacked so shamelessly! But, once again, it increased their ratings and profits!
Anyway, I seriously believe all should actually read Hillary Clinton’s speech before she cast her vote. Please do not go along with the MSMs intentional misleading of the public, since they are already using the same bullshit they did in 2008! It’s a HUGE LIE as you will see after reading her speech.
Here is the entire Senate floor speech on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq, dated October 10, 2002.
Today we are asked whether to give the President of the United States authority to use force in Iraq should diplomatic efforts fail to dismantle Saddam Hussein’s chemical and biological weapons and his nuclear program.
I am honored to represent nearly 19 million New Yorkers, a thoughtful democracy of voices and opinions who make themselves heard on the great issues of our day especially this one. Many have contacted my office about this resolution, both in support of and in opposition to it, and I am grateful to all who have expressed an opinion.
I also greatly respect the differing opinions within this body. The debate they engender will aid our search for a wise, effective policy. Therefore, on no account should dissent be discouraged or disparaged. It is central to our freedom and to our progress, for on more than one occasion, history has proven our great dissenters to be right.
Now, I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians, killing over 20 thousand people. Unfortunately, during the 1980’s, while he engaged in such horrific activity, he enjoyed the support of the American government, because he had oil and was seen as a counterweight to the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran.
In 1991, Saddam Hussein invaded and occupied Kuwait, losing the support of the United States. The first President Bush assembled a global coalition, including many Arab states, and threw Saddam out after forty-three days of bombing and a hundred hours of ground operations. The U.S.-led coalition then withdrew, leaving the Kurds and the Shiites, who had risen against Saddam Hussein at our urging, to Saddam’s revenge.
As a condition for ending the conflict, the United Nations imposed a number of requirements on Iraq, among them disarmament of all weapons of mass destruction, stocks used to make such weapons, and laboratories necessary to do the work. Saddam Hussein agreed, and an inspection system was set up to ensure compliance. And though he repeatedly lied, delayed, and obstructed the inspections work, the inspectors found and destroyed far more weapons of mass destruction capability than were destroyed in the Gulf War, including thousands of chemical weapons, large volumes of chemical and biological stocks, a number of missiles and warheads, a major lab equipped to produce anthrax and other bio-weapons, as well as substantial nuclear facilities.
In 1998, Saddam Hussein pressured the United Nations to lift the sanctions by threatening to stop all cooperation with the inspectors. In an attempt to resolve the situation, the UN, unwisely in my view, agreed to put limits on inspections of designated “sovereign sites” including the so-called presidential palaces, which in reality were huge compounds well suited to hold weapons labs, stocks, and records which Saddam Hussein was required by UN resolution to turn over. When Saddam blocked the inspection process, the inspectors left. As a result, President Clinton, with the British and others, ordered an intensive four-day air assault, Operation Desert Fox, on known and suspected weapons of mass destruction sites and other military targets.
In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad.
In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.
Now this much is undisputed. The open questions are: what should we do about it? How, when, and with whom?
Some people favor attacking Saddam Hussein now, with any allies we can muster, in the belief that one more round of weapons inspections would not produce the required disarmament, and that deposing Saddam would be a positive good for the Iraqi people and would create the possibility of a secular democratic state in the Middle East, one which could perhaps move the entire region toward democratic reform.
This view has appeal to some, because it would assure disarmament; because it would right old wrongs after our abandonment of the Shiites and Kurds in 1991, and our support for Saddam Hussein in the 1980’s when he was using chemical weapons and terrorizing his people; and because it would give the Iraqi people a chance to build a future in freedom.
However, this course is fraught with danger. We and our NATO allies did not depose Mr. Milosevic, who was responsible for more than a quarter of a million people being killed in the 1990s. Instead, by stopping his aggression in Bosnia and Kosovo, and keeping on the tough sanctions, we created the conditions in which his own people threw him out and led to his being in the dock being tried for war crimes as we speak.
If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us. In recent days, Russia has talked of an invasion of Georgia to attack Chechen rebels. India has mentioned the possibility of a pre-emptive strike on Pakistan. And what if China were to perceive a threat from Taiwan?
So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option.
Others argue that we should work through the United Nations and should only resort to force if and when the United Nations Security Council approves it. This too has great appeal for different reasons. The UN deserves our support. Whenever possible we should work through it and strengthen it, for it enables the world to share the risks and burdens of global security and when it acts, it confers a legitimacy that increases the likelihood of long-term success. The UN can help lead the world into a new era of global cooperation and the United States should support that goal.
But there are problems with this approach as well. The United Nations is an organization that is still growing and maturing. It often lacks the cohesion to enforce its own mandates. And when Security Council members use the veto, on occasion, for reasons of narrow-minded interests, it cannot act. In Kosovo, the Russians did not approve NATO military action because of political, ethnic, and religious ties to the Serbs. The United States therefore could not obtain a Security Council resolution in favor of the action necessary to stop the dislocation and ethnic cleansing of more than a million Kosovar Albanians. However, most of the world was with us because there was a genuine emergency with thousands dead and a million driven from their homes. As soon as the American-led conflict was over, Russia joined the peacekeeping effort that is still underway.
In the case of Iraq, recent comments indicate that one or two Security Council members might never approve force against Saddam Hussein until he has actually used chemical, biological, or God forbid, nuclear weapons.
So, Mr. President, the question is how do we do our best to both defuse the real threat that Saddam Hussein poses to his people, to the region, including Israel, to the United States, to the world, and at the same time, work to maximize our international support and strengthen the United Nations?
While there is no perfect approach to this thorny dilemma, and while people of good faith and high intelligence can reach diametrically opposed conclusions, I believe the best course is to go to the UN for a strong resolution that scraps the 1998 restrictions on inspections and calls for complete, unlimited inspections with cooperation expected and demanded from Iraq. I know that the Administration wants more, including an explicit authorization to use force, but we may not be able to secure that now, perhaps even later. But if we get a clear requirement for unfettered inspections, I believe the authority to use force to enforce that mandate is inherent in the original 1991 UN resolution, as President Clinton recognized when he launched Operation Desert Fox in 1998.
If we get the resolution that President Bush seeks, and if Saddam complies, disarmament can proceed and the threat can be eliminated. Regime change will, of course, take longer but we must still work for it, nurturing all reasonable forces of opposition.
If we get the resolution and Saddam does not comply, then we can attack him with far more support and legitimacy than we would have otherwise.
If we try and fail to get a resolution that simply, but forcefully, calls for Saddam’s compliance with unlimited inspections, those who oppose even that will be in an indefensible position. And, we will still have more support and legitimacy than if we insist now on a resolution that includes authorizing military action and other requirements giving some nations superficially legitimate reasons to oppose any Security Council action. They will say we never wanted a resolution at all and that we only support the United Nations when it does exactly what we want.
I believe international support and legitimacy are crucial. After shots are fired and bombs are dropped, not all consequences are predictable. While the military outcome is not in doubt, should we put troops on the ground, there is still the matter of Saddam Hussein’s biological and chemical weapons. Today he has maximum incentive not to use them or give them away. If he did either, the world would demand his immediate removal. Once the battle is joined, however, with the outcome certain, he will have maximum incentive to use weapons of mass destruction and to give what he can’t use to terrorists who can torment us with them long after he is gone. We cannot be paralyzed by this possibility, but we would be foolish to ignore it. And according to recent reports, the CIA agrees with this analysis. A world united in sharing the risk at least would make this occurrence less likely and more bearable and would be far more likely to share with us the considerable burden of rebuilding a secure and peaceful post-Saddam Iraq.
President Bush’s speech in Cincinnati and the changes in policy that have come forth since the Administration began broaching this issue some weeks ago have made my vote easier. Even though the resolution before the Senate is not as strong as I would like in requiring the diplomatic route first and placing highest priority on a simple, clear requirement for unlimited inspections, I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.
Because bipartisan support for this resolution makes success in the United Nations more likely, and therefore, war less likely, and because a good faith effort by the United States, even if it fails, will bring more allies and legitimacy to our cause, I have concluded, after careful and serious consideration, that a vote for the resolution best serves the security of our nation. If we were to defeat this resolution or pass it with only a few Democrats, I am concerned that those who want to pretend this problem will go way with delay will oppose any UN resolution calling for unrestricted inspections.
This is a very difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make — any vote that may lead to war should be hard — but I cast it with conviction.
And perhaps my decision is influenced by my eight years of experience on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue in the White House watching my husband deal with serious challenges to our nation. I want this President, or any future President, to be in the strongest possible position to lead our country in the United Nations or in war. Secondly, I want to insure that Saddam Hussein makes no mistake about our national unity and for our support for the President’s efforts to wage America’s war against terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. And thirdly, I want the men and women in our Armed Forces to know that if they should be called upon to act against Iraq, our country will stand resolutely behind them.
My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for uni-lateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose — all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people throughout the world.
Over eleven years have passed since the UN called on Saddam Hussein to rid himself of weapons of mass destruction as a condition of returning to the world community. Time and time again he has frustrated and denied these conditions. This matter cannot be left hanging forever with consequences we would all live to regret. War can yet be avoided, but our responsibility to global security and to the integrity of United Nations resolutions protecting it cannot. I urge the President to spare no effort to secure a clear, unambiguous demand by the United Nations for unlimited inspections.
And finally, on another personal note, I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year’s terrible attacks on our nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know that I am.
So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him – use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein – this is your last chance – disarm or be disarmed.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I have been making political commentary in forums and blogging for over nine years as BewareTheBelievers. Almost all of the comments, blogs were combined into this WordPress blog a few years ago. During all that time I have exchanged thoughts with some fantastic people and their good hearts would come shining through their words. Of course, I have also had some pretty rough and tough, downright raunchy interchanges with some snarky, bitter, bigoted, racist people. Whenever the negative conversations occurred, I had my say and moved on, not giving it too much thought.
I kept hearing all these references to Twitter; and, in October, 2011, I decided to take the plunge and find out what it was all about. I was amazed how much different it was than the media and talk show hosts were leading the public to believe! Yes, some people use it to “follow” every boring movement someone else is “tweeting” about; and some use it to follow celebrities. BUT, I found I could “follow” major news sources and Democratic/progressive/liberal leaders. AND, anything that happens in the world of major significance will be on Twitter long before it hits the main stream media!
I followed a few people who tweeted summaries of political happenings or who I found had links to excellent resources. Then, I started tweeting my thoughts on whatever was happening politically at the time. Slowly but surely I, too, gained followers. It was a long, slow process finding and connecting with other progressives/liberals. When the presidential election started heating up, things began to move rapidly and my follower count moved up also. I found out hastags (the # symbol with a word or words with no spaces) were used for groups to get together in the same “place” to express their views or just hang out. I also found out that some people like to go to those hashtags to harass those who hold different views.
I discovered that RWNJ stands for Right Wing Nut Job and that RWNJs “troll” progressive/liberals on Twitter and their hashtags just to harass them. Of course, some liberals do the same thing. :-( That’s not a real problem because if you don’t want a person’s comments showing up in your TL (timeline, all your tweets and others who have tweeted to you) then all you have to do is block them. But, unfortunately, the block/spam report is abused on Twitter to get people suspended. Twitter has been unable to stay ahead of those who wish to game the system. Suspensions usually last a couple of days so, under normal circumstances, it’s no big deal. It only becomes a big deal when political groups use it to affect large numbers of other political groups at times when those tweeters may be important to an election or issue.
I experienced a couple of “dirty tricks” suspensions; see my post “How UniteBlue Will HELP Stop RWNJ Dirty Tricks”
During the November, 2012, presidential election, I saw the potential political power of Twitter. Thousands of liberals/progressives were tweeting information about problems at specific polls, tweeting support to all those who had to stand in line, participating in “tweetbombs” (a hashtag used to bring attention to a specific issue such as #stayatthepolls). Someone would schedule a tweetbomb for a specific day/time and let all those they could trust know about it by way of a Direct Message. Then, those people would let their followers know about the tweetbomb; it’s kind of like a phone tree. :-) When a tweetbomb trends, most people on Twitter are aware of it so it can be a powerful way to get a message out or to put pressure on political office holders to move on an issue.
All of these things led to my awareness of UniteBlue.com; for details, see my post “How I Got Involved with UniteBlue”
Only after joining UniteBlue and following @UniteBlue on Twitter did I become aware of a few more liberal/progressive groups that apparently had existed all the time I was wandering somewhat aimlessly in the Twitterverse. I NEVER saw or read about ANY of them! I came to find out that I had been following some of the people who were in these groups but I never once read about any of their organized groups. I also had never heard of any of their hashtags. I remember saying to one of my followers it would be good if there were a liberal hashtag we could all use and did he know of any. He tweeted back that some people used p1 or p2. So I started adding the hashtag to information I thought was important to liberals/progressives.
UniteBlue.com’s goal is to organize liberals/progressives/Democrats/lean lefties on Twitter to affect important issues and elections at the federal/state/local levels. Of course, some of the more established Twitter liberal groups did not take too kindly to the new, young upstart. But, it didn’t seem a real problem until UniteBlue made what I think is one of the most important Twitter politically organizing moves, they made it possible for those who wished to do so to put a “twibbon” on their Twitter picture (avatar). A twibbon can be put on one’s avatar for a variety of campaigns/issues; whoever is running the campaign can set up a twibbon on the twibbon website and anyone wishing to get one can easily do so. Well, UniteBlue had the foresight to set it up so that people could put a small, blue, Double D on their avatar and other liberals/progressives/Dems/lean lefties would know immediately that the person following them was UniteBlue; and, if one were looking for people to follow, they could looks for avatars with the UniteBlue twibbon.
The numbers of liberals joining UniteBlue began to soar and my follower numbers went from around 1400 in February to 2700 today! I have met some of the most intelligent, well-informed liberal activists and some have a hilarious sense of humor. I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the activity.
Unfortunately, a couple of the older, established liberal Twitter groups had a FEW very egotistical, power-hungry types who were obviously jealous of UniteBlue’s phenomenal success; and, instead of being thrilled that liberals had an opportunity to use the tools provided on the UniteBlue website to grow a tremendously powerful political voice, they began a huge campaign to discredit UniteBlue.
Yes, there were some who had legitimate questions and constructive criticisms; and, those questions were answered in detail and the constructive criticisms were used to improve the website. Of course, as with any new organization, some mistakes were made; but, overall, UniteBlue is organizing liberals at lightning speed and it has, and will continue to, affect major political issues/elections at a time that we need it so badly!
The very vocal, negative FEW are using all of the tricks available on Twitter to convince anyone who had been following them that UniteBlue is risky. They say there’s no need for UniteBlue because there were already liberal groups, although apparently they weren’t very easy to find! They tweet that UniteBlue’s leaders can’t be trusted and then proceed to tweet lies/insinuations that have long ago been proven false. They include a grain of truth with their lies to make them more believable by the tweeter who does not have the time or does not take the time to read all of the details.
They use fear to get people who are not familiar with technology and how apps work to get them to not join or to discontinue if they have joined. They have spread the lie and continue to spread the lie that the UniteBlue app that is used to access Twitter from the website has all kinds of power that can be used to access one’s account and tweet for you, follow/unfollow people, etc. They know the truth is that the UniteBlue app access is NORMAL and no different from the majority of apps people use with Twitter. A person uses an app when they want to do more with Twitter than they can do on the Twitter site itself. There are all kinds of apps available such as FollowFriday that is used my numerous people on Twitter and most are unaware of the access that app needs to function.
If I use an app, I have to tell the app that it’s ok for it to do certain things for me on Twitter and I have to tell Twitter it’s ok for the app to perform certain functions for me on Twitter. It’s basically two computer systems talking to each other and I have told Twitter that the app system is me for certain functions. For example, I may use an app called Tweetcaster because it loads tweets faster than the Twitter website, gives me more detailed information about followers accounts, more details about who retweeted my tweets, etc. When I’m using the Tweetcaster app, I can also change my Twitter profile and perform a number of functions like tweeting that normally would be done on Twitter. In order for me to be able to do those things, I have to give the app that kind of access; otherwise, when I tried to change my profile, Twitter would not allow it. So, basically, one gives an app access BUT the actions that are performed are done by that person when they are using the app.
So, the fact that an app can “change my profile” SOUNDS extreme when, in reality, it just means that when I use the app I can change my profile. The app is NOT going to just go in and change my profile, tweet for me, or do all kinds of outrageous things without my knowledge! Of course, there are unethical, scamming apps and everyone must be careful to choose trustworthy apps. BUT, even if an app were to prove unreliable, it’s simple enough to revoke access with the click of a button.
All of this explanation is so that you will understand that when these very vocal FEW attacked UniteBlue, one of the major things they used was that the UniteBlue app would be able to change your profile, tweet for you, etc.; and, to the average person, this sounded extreme! It not only scared some people who had been on Twitter for a long time and had joined UniteBlue but it especially scared many of the newcomers who were flowing into Twitter because of its exposure to the general population. The UniteBlue attackers did not just ask the question and have it answered; they asked the same question over and over again, just worded a different way and always with the insinuation that UniteBlue would abuse that access to destroy liberals.
The group that uses lies/insinuations as questions also claims to present unbiased reviews of the controversy in which they will proceed to present all of the old lies/insinuations. One of them, @toddqm wrote an “impartial” review of the controversy and posted it in detail on a website. He proceeded to outright lie about my blog post re how UniteBlue will HELP stop RWNJ tricks. He said that I had repeated the claim that UniteBlue says they WILL protect tweeters from suspension. UniteBlue does NOT say that and I did NOT say that. If you have any doubt as to what I said, please read my blog post or just read the title! :-) I had read all his other so-called “impartial” bullshit and knew that it was purely an attack piece on UniteBlue; but, when I read his account of MY blog post, I was livid. He had outright lied! His group includes some very egotistical progressives such as @MichaelGavin01 and @DrDigPol who continue to use “questions” with insinuations as a stealth way to attack UniteBlue even though the questions have been answered in detail on the UniteBlue website and on Twitter and they KNOW it!
The @MichaelGavin01 group also uses a fake liberal “news” account @PoliticolNews 2 viciously attack Zach Green/UniteBlue with such a constant stream of lies that if you search Zach’s @ name, the fake news account will come up along with Zach’s! They want people to confuse them with Politico so they will believe/retweet the lies!
One of the groups even went so far as to create a sound alike account called BlueUnite! They followed UniteBlue accounts and hoped to mislead others. The imposter account linked to all the same old lies/bullshit attacking Zach/UniteBlue. Twitter suspended the account two or three times in a row until it changed its bio to clearly tell people it was not UniteBlue. But, last time I checked, its still there stabbing away every chance it gets and is in cahoots with the fake news account @PoliticolNews!
Once a rumor, lie, insinuation gets going on Twitter, it is extremely difficult to correct it. If you tweet back the truth, those who see that tweet also see the lie you are addressing. So, if they had not seen the lie, you have now given exposure to the liar which is what the liar wants. So, the general advice is to ignore the lies and negative insinuations and don’t let them distract you from your goals of working for liberal causes/elections. Most of the time, that is excellent advice.
But, I began to notice some of my followers were questioning UniteBlue based on some of the lies/insinuations or were asking questions about the app’s access. I began to see some with low follower numbers new to Twitter asking the same questions. So, I would try to answer the questions in a way that did not give a link to the lies/liar. My activity, of course, gained some notice amongst the, what I will now call, LWNJs (left wing nut jobs) who were now involved solely in the destruction of UniteBlue.
I was told my name was on their lists and that I had better be careful because they would get me suspended or worse they would “dox” me! I began to hear about some UniteBlue people being doxed, which means that someone did a detailed look into their lives and collected the information in documents. One of the very vocal but small groups apparently had no shame and no ethics; they were systematically “doxing” some of the more active UniteBlue members and put up websites with all of their personal information, especially if there was anything negative. Some of the information included details from the person’s facebook accounts WITH pictures! What made it worse was that the information they were posting was full of incorrect information or outright lies and they didn’t care! Then they would tweet about that person and include a link to the pack of lies all the while claiming they were doing this so that all would know the “truth” about that particular person!
Unfortunately, there are many on Twitter who do not read the details and simply believe what they read from someone they follow and will retweet the lie without knowing that it’s all fabricated and they are being used by people with no scruples!
One of the two groups actually has a couple of people who communicate with and pretend to be Anonymous, which puts the fear of God into some people who believe them. And, unfortunately, a few real Anonymous Twitter accounts have been taken in by the lies these few have told and have given them Twitter support. One of the problems that UniteBlue had was that a member of its Advisory Board had a legal case that involved drugs and child pornography that had been in the courts since 2005 and was still being processed. Unfortunately, he did not advise UniteBlue about the case. One of the UniteBlue haters @TrinaCuppett who calls herself ninja and pretends to be Anonymous discovered the information and exposed the board member not only with the details of the case, which had not been finalized, but with an excessive amount of personal information about him. Of course, the person immediately resigned from the board and UniteBlue set up a more strenuous process for board appointments. That should have been the end of UniteBlue’s involvement. But the ninja had other plans; she would use this to destroy UniteBlue if she could.
Twitter was flooded with accusations re the case and ALWAYS that group’s tweets would include UniteBlue’s name. So, now in addition to one other jealous group always trying to discredit the developer of UniteBlue, Zach Green, there was another group supposedly connected to Anonymous who would attack anyone who dared tweet anything that disagreed with their statements. The group constantly refers to the man as a pedophile, although there is a major difference between being convicted of being a pedophile and being convicted of possession of child pornography. Most people are offended by either; but, the group doesn’t care about telling the truth. They want to portray the worst possible because that works better for their goal of destroying UniteBlue. I tweeted that if people wished to discuss the legal case, they should do so without mentioning UniteBlue because it had nothing to do with the organization. BAM! My name was on the pedophile supporter list!
Of course, I am not alone on the so-called pedophile supporter list; there are many others (notice they reinforce their incorrect term every time they refer to us). But some on the list have been doxed; and, as if that is not bad enough, the dox may contain some truths but ALWAYS contains outright lies or fabrications of stories. Once again, IF one decides to engage/tweet the truth to these unethical, disgusting people on Twitter, then those who may not have seen the outrageous lies will now see it and the liars will have gained exactly what they want, EXPOSURE on Twitter for their cause of destroying UniteBlue or Zach Green!
I became aware of how extreme it had become when a couple of my followers removed their UniteBlue twibbon because they were afraid they would become targets of these Twitter bullies. I was furious! I found that the obnoxious, extremist group had no shame and actually had created a website used to dox supposed pedophile supporters! Of course, there are no pedophile supporters! Who does that? No one supports pedophiles! How absurd can you get! But, the truth is of no concern to this little Twitter fiefdom of bullies and they were successfully scaring the hell out of some people!
My name was on the pedophile supporter list and I exchanged tweets with a few of the bullies. There timelines were full of disgusting, misogynistic tweets about the UniteBlue women who were pedophile supporters. They referred to them as a bunch of old women who were attracted to the person charged with pedophilia and then continued to denigrate us all. ONE of them actually referred to us as useless CUNTS! I blocked that lowlife and tweeted that I had done so and all hell broke loose because he was one of the supposed Anonymous group. So, now, not only was I a pedophile supporter according to this repulsive group but I was also attacking Anonymous! It took awhile, but think I finally got my message across to the TRUE Anonymous accounts that some were claiming to be Anonymous but their actions were far below the dignity of anyone who was true to the goals of Anonymous!
I was still trying to ignore this sick group that dared to call themselves liberals in hopes that I could stay focused on the many liberal causes plus actively tweet against the GOP for the 2014 elections. But, I had several tweet exchanges with one of this evil group’s members @Shoqacon in which he said some disgusting things he wanted me to do. I blocked him and tweeted that I had done so. When I signed into Twitter the next day, I found that the hateful group had supposedly doxed ME! When I went to the website (yes, they post it on a website set up just for their evil attacks) and began reading the information, it took all I had to read it through the tears, not from crying, but from laughing my ass off! The idiots had confused me with what looked like two different accounts. They were announcing that I was being exposed and that BewareTheBelievers name was Barbara Rice and that she lived in Washington D.C. They had a picture of her from a facebook account, I think; actually, I still don’t know if that picture is one of the real Barbara Rice or if they are wrong on that part too! I was sickened by how much detail they had about this person and that they were saying she was me. They took an article she had written and combined it with some of my blog posts and said I had written her piece on social security! I really did bust a gut at their incompetence! Then it hit me that some poor woman was going to suffer from this attack on me! I had no idea who she was but it made me sick and angry that once again this disgusting group was attacking innocent people and causing them pain and misery by spreading lies, and they didn’t give a damn who they hurt. They have one goal; destroy UniteBlue/Zach Green and they will stop at nothing to do it.
By the time I got back to Twitter I found out that it was @OpTrollBill, one of the worst offenders in this little Twitter fiefdom of terror group who had “doxed” me and he was so proud of it. I later found that it was @OsborneInk who had actually collected the data and provided it to @OpTrollBill. The ironic thing is that @OsborneInk (Matt Osborne) actually tweeted that he had “independently verified” the information on me and that it was correct! These two are particularly nasty people lacking ethics of any kind and Matt Osborne is too lazy to get real stories so he fabricates lies to build stories. Later I found out that the woman they had attacked and exposed details about her life (probably lies) was @fabucat. Her name is Barbara Rice, BUT neither of us lives in Washington D.C. She has spent the last two days trying to convince these evil, unethical people that she is not me!
Of course, every time @fabucat tweets to one of these disgusting people, they use it as a way to call her and me liars and pedo supporters and spread their lies and hate re UniteBlue. Of all my experiences online, I will have to say I have never encountered such true evil as exists in @OpTrollBill and @OsborneInk (Matt Osborne) and some of their other group members such as @femmeanon and her backup account @LiberationLo both of which are rumored to be @TrinaCuppett who is the one who calls herself the ninja and
wishes she were a real member of Anonymous! Please forgive me for that last bit; I’m not one to usually spread rumors; but have had it with her and all of her accounts! Also, @OpTrollBill has three other accounts: @OpTrollBill2, @OpTrollBill3, and OpTrollBill4 that he uses to spread his disgusting lies whenever one or the other is suspended!
I tried several times to tweet the truth to this nasty little group but got on Twitter again a few hours ago and saw where @DkChoco, one of the less informed members of this group, was telling Barbara Rice that Barbara Rice was the one lying and that Barbara Rice owned both the @BewareTheBeliev & @fabucat accounts! And, I saw tweet after tweet where @fabucat, Barbara Rice, had pleaded with three to four different members of this disgusting group to tell everyone that their dox of me was incorrect and that she was not me. Each time her tweet was met with sickening responses, repeating lies about me and her!
I also saw tweets from the other group from @toddqm to @TrinaCuppett going along with and repeating the lies! I have long suspected that the two groups were connected and have found some names that appear to back up my theory. But, these tweets clearly show that the two very small but vocal groups are plotting together to attack UniteBlue and its developer, Zach Green. They have different reasons; the @TrinaCuppett group holds a grudge re how the organization began and the @toddqm group is full of jealous, egotistical types who WISH they had developed the website and come up with the twibbon that makes it so successful.
I have since learned that @OsborneInk (Matt Osborne) does this dox kind of thing just to get juicy stories for his blog. He starts rumors with lies/insinuations and hopes the person he’s lied about responds and gives him more fodder for more lies and it builds from there so he can have a “juicy” story! It’s difficult to get more disgusting than he is. Not only is he refusing to admit he fabricated the dox on me, he tweets every chance he gets that I’m a pedophile supporter in hopes of getting a response out of me. Well, he’s getting one HERE!
A few times when the attackers used disgusting, misogynistic language I retweeted it and included the #stoprush hashtag because I wanted the women who read tweets in that tag to know who these people were and the kind of language they were using to attack innocent women. Well, Mr. Matt Osborne had the audacity to tweet to me to take the #stoprush out of my bio because he didn’t want the likes of me anywhere near HIS liberal cause! Yep, he’s that maniacal and egotistical! He also told me to stop using the #stoprush hastag! If you’ve read any of my other blog posts, you can imagine the kind of responses he received! :-)
Anyone could do a simple google search and determine that I am who I say I am; my Twitter account is BewareTheBelievers @BewareTheBeliev and clearly says I’m from Ohio, NOT Washington D.C. My Facebook page is BewareTheBelievers Blog and this blog has the same name. My real name is listed at the top of this blog for all to see. This nasty group never says why in the world I would hide my identity, especially since I’ve been doing this for over nine years. Did I plan to go on Twitter and have a need to hide my identity? Who the fuck knows what goes through their evil minds with all their plotting and conspiracy theories!
The truth is that @OsborneInk (Matt Osborne) needs another juicy story and he hopes I will give him details that he can’t get otherwise. He actually has a tab on his sick little blog titled “Burn Notices”; it’s a page for the @Shoq Twitter Brigade Burn Notice. Unfortunately, @Shoq has been involved in repeating some of the UniteBlue attack lies. Matt Osborne knows I’m not Barbara Rice @fabucat but he’s done a hatchet job on her and he has plans for doing one on me IF he can get me to say something that he can twist and then write another lie about. And right now, I don’t give a rat’s ass! I just hate it that he and his disgusting group are continuing to mercilessly attack Barbara Rice @fabucat and show no signs of decency or that they will admit they fabricated most of the story and mixed up the rest. They’re sick, truly sick; and I am still finding it hard to believe that those kinds of people exist or that I have now had the displeasure of actually typing words to such evil. The evil almost resonates right through the keys!
Anyway, I do hate to take up my blog post space with such despicable people, especially since they claim to be liberals; but tweets are limited to 140 characters at a time; and by the time I said all of this, I would have given this hateful, evil group way too much exposure. IF you are on Twitter, please feel free to block these evil people and all who participate in their disgusting tactics; it’s easy enough to follow the trail. Believe me, you do not want their disgusting tweets in your timeline and you definitely do not want to rely on any of them for correct information.
- How @UniteBlue Will HELP Stop RWNJ Dirty Tricks Suspending Liberals! (bewarethebelievers.com)
- How I Got Involved with @UniteBlue & Why I Wholeheartedly Support It & @140elect! (bewarethebelievers.com)